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PostSubject: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:29 pm

Roberts Says God Forced His Resignation



By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS 2 hours ago
TULSA, Okla. (AP) Richard Roberts told students at Oral Roberts University Wednesday that he did not want to resign as president of the scandal-plagued evangelical school, but he did so because God insisted.
God told him on Thanksgiving that he should resign the next day, Roberts told students in the university's chapel.
"Every ounce of my flesh said 'no'" to the idea, Roberts said, but he prayed over the decision with his wife and his father, Oral Roberts, and decided to step down.
Roberts said he wanted to "strike out" against the people who were persecuting him, and considered countersuing, but "the Lord said, 'don't do that,'" he said.
After submitting his resignation, he said, for "first time in 60 days peace came into my heart."
Roberts spoke only for a few minutes and was applauded and cheered by students. He wiped away tears with a white handkerchief and his hands.
"This has nearly destroyed my family, and it's nearly destroyed ORU," Roberts said.
A lawsuit accuses Roberts of lavish spending at a time when the university faced more than $50 million in debt, including taking shopping sprees, buying a stable of horses and paying for a daughter to travel to the Bahamas aboard the university jet.
Roberts has previously said that God told him to deny the allegations. The week the lawsuit was filed, Richard Roberts said that God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."
On Wednesday, Roberts said God told him he would "do something supernatural for the university," if he stepped down from the job he held at the 5,700-student school since 1993.
On Tuesday, the founder of a Christian office and education supply store chain pledged $70 million to help the university, provided it passed a 90-day review of the school's finances. Oklahoma City businessman Mart Green, founder of the Mardel chain, offered to donate $8 million immediately.
Roberts said he would return to the full-time evangelistic healing ministry, "which is where my heart has always been," and told students and faculty that he will be praying for them every day of his life.
"I believe with all my heart the best is yet to come for ORU," he said.
Roberts walked out of the chapel through a side door to more cheers. Regents Chairman George Pearsons followed, telling students the ORU administration is "endeavoring to do the right thing" during a very difficult time.
"This is a good university," Pearsons said. "ORU is a place where love is king."
Roberts remains the CEO of the Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association and remains a "spiritual regent" who cannot vote on university matters.
On Tuesday, Pearsons announced a plan to separate the finances and leadership of the university from the Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association, a move welcomed by many students and faculty members.
The university has been under the ministry since its inception in 1963, an arrangement that critics say led to co-mingling of funds and a blurring of leadership roles.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:32 pm

This is gigantic news here in Tulsa.


ORU was 50 million in debt.

Hobby Lobby guy steps in with 70 million, Roberts resigns.


People at work run the gammit, from it's about time they got this sleazy crook, to The Lord God himself is involved, and Roberts is under satanic attack.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:01 pm

Ugh.

A college that outlaws lying, cursing, smoking, drinking, gambling a sexual encounters. I call that Saturday night.

I mean, dude built this thing because he said God told him too.

Then, he snakes money (allegedly) for his personal gains and right wing political ideology.

This place makes Scientology sound a whole lot better.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:37 pm

I don't like the situation at all, I just find it a big old bag of crappola.


First off, I see this guy on t.v. all the time channel surfing, and I think he is a liar and a fake and a fraud. Take the latest things he said. Dude shows up and gives 70 million to bail them out, but stipulates that Roberts is not part of the deal, so Roberts steps down. Plus all the lawsuits, and people wanting him to go.

So what does he go and say? GOD told him to step down and not fight.

Now who believes that?

Not me. I think it's a total fabrication, and a bold faced lie.



But here is the rub. I'v thought dude was a skank for years now, but I could care less. If folks want to follow him, then so be it. It's a free country.

I don't like it when the government gets into church business. Yeah, there are millions at stake, but when you bring the government in on this stuff, I don't like it.


So to me, dude is a fraud, but it's his American given right to be a fraud, and that's that.


But really, I could care less about the whole deal, other than everyone in Tulsa is all fired up about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:42 pm

The problem is, ORU wanted tax-exempt stauts. If Roberts and his family are defrauding this institution (double entendre intended) then the government has every right to swoop in and get involved. Let them defraud their flock, but not my country. If dude is going to piss away the money, fine, but not if they're tax-exempted.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:47 pm

Oh yeah, it's a given that he is frauding everybody, the school, the church, the hobo's he meets on the street, I bet he would beat up a homeless fellow, take his coin, then go preach on devine healing,


but tax exempt or not, I think it's a church matter, it makes me nervous when the State moves in on the church.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:55 pm

I see where you're coming from. But overall, the moral majority is still in control.

Roberts asked the government for tax-exempt status, as does every religious institution. You can't defraud the federal government and not expect them to come and collect.

This isn't a church, it's a university. It turns a profit. Just because it's a university with a religious spin, well, that's beside the point in this instance.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:01 pm

I saw this guy one time at Wal-Mart, the one right next to the ORU campus.

Needless to say I was a little freaked out.


I tell it, it's interesting to watch. This one super religious guy at work, well he hates Roberts, and is enjoying this, and you can tell he wants to see the whole thing go belly up. When it comes on the radio, his eyes light up, like maybe when they heard Hitler was dead back in WW2.

Another guy, who is religious, he about gave a sermon in the breakroom, he said it was an act of God/Jesus that the 70 million came in. Happy as a larke (not 2000) that the place is saved from debt.

One atheist dude was all like the government should shut it down.

Couple of religious fellows were of the opinion that Oral was a good dude, but his son was a crook.

Me, I think the whole deal over there is a bunch of loony tunes gone wild, but at the same time, I don't like to get in other church's business, so I just stay out of it at work, move on to other subjects.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:13 pm

Once you show your political or religious hand of cards at work it could be disaster.

At the bar and at work, just keep it to yourself.

I can imagine with this going down in your backyard, everyone and anyone has a strong opinion. Of course once the opposite ideas run into each other it's the making of a holy hand grenade, best not to be around when it goes off.

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PostSubject: Re: Roberts steps down at ORU   Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:15 pm

People at work normally back off when folks go to preaching, it's a Tulsa thing, or maybe a bible belt thing. It's like they know what's up,

you are better off arguing with a rabid dog about a can of alpo than a wide eyed fellow who has gone to preaching.

You just back off, smile, and look at the snack machine.

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