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PostSubject: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:14 pm

Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race
By DAVID ESPO and PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writers

CONCORD, N.H. - Arizona Sen. John McCain won the New Hampshire primary Tuesday night, completing a remarkable comeback and climbing back into contention for the Republican presidential nomination. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton moved out to a startling lead over Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic race.

"We showed the people of this country what a real comeback looks like," McCain told The Associated Press in an interview as he savored his triumph. "We're going to move on to Michigan and South Carolina and win the nomination."

Later, he told cheering supporters that together, "we have taken a step, but only a first step toward repairing the broken politics of the past and restoring the trust of the American people in their government."

The Arizona senator rode a wave of support from independent voters to defeat former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, a showing that reprised his victory in the traditional first-in-the-nation primary in 2000.

It was a bitter blow for Romney, who spent millions of dollars of his own money in hopes of winning the kickoff Iowa caucuses and the first primary � and finished second in both. Even so, the businessman-turned politician said he would meet McCain next week in the Michigan primary, and he cast himself as just what the country needed to fix Washington. "I don't care who gets the credit, Republican or Democrat. I've got no scores to settle," he told supporters.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the leadoff Iowa GOP caucuses last week, was running third in New Hampshire.

With votes counted from 51 percent of the state's precincts, McCain was winning 37 percent of the vote, Romney had 32 and Huckabee 11. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani had 9 percent, Texas Rep. Ron Paul 8.

Clinton, the former first lady who finished third in Iowa, was mounting an unexpectedly stiff challenge to Obama in the nation's first primary. Polling place interviews showed that the female vote � which deserted the former first lady when she finished third in last week's Iowa caucuses � was solidly in her New Hampshire column.

The former first lady also was winning handily among registered Democrats. Obama led her by an even larger margin among independents.

She had 39 percent of the vote in the Democratic primary to 37 percent for Obama, who is seeking to become the nation's first black president. Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina trailed with 17 percent.

Despite running a distant third to his better-funded rivals, Edwards had no plans to step aside. He pointed toward the South Carolina primary on Jan. 26, hoping to prevail in the state where he was born � and where he claimed his only victory in the presidential primaries four years ago.

Clinton's performance, based on the early returns, surprised even her own inner circle.

In the hours leading up to the poll closing, her closest advisers had appeared to be bracing for a second defeat at the hands of Obama.

Officials said her aides were considering whether to effectively concede the next two contests � caucuses in Nevada on Jan. 19 and a South Carolina primary a week later � and instead try to regroup in time for a 22-state round of Democratic contests on Feb. 5.

These officials also said a campaign shake-up was in the works, with longtime Clinton confidante Maggie Williams poised to come aboard to help sharpen the former first lady's message. Other personnel additions are expected, according to these officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity while discussing strategy.

Obama, who won the leadoff Iowa caucuses last week, looked for an endorsement from the powerful Culinary Workers union in Nevada in the days ahead. South Carolina's Democratic electorate is heavily black and likely to go for the most viable black presidential candidate in history.

The Republican race turns next to Michigan, where McCain and Romney already are advertising on television, and where both men planned appearances on Wednesday. Huckabee also was expected to campaign in the state.

By custom, the first handful of New Hampshire votes was cast, at midnight, in Dixville Notch in the far northern tip of the state.

By tradition, the first primary held the power to propel winners into the rush of primaries that follow � and to send the also-rans home for good.

And by registration, New Hampshire's balance of power rested with its independent voters, more than 40 percent of the electorate, neither reliably Democratic nor Republican, with the power to settle either race, or both.

McCain, an Arizona senator, in particular, appealed for their support in the run-up to the primary. He battled Romney, the former governor of next-door Massachusetts, and to a lesser extent Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor who won last week's Iowa caucuses.

According to preliminary results of a survey of voters as they left their polling places, more independents cast ballots in the Democratic race than in the Republican contest. They accounted for four of every 10 Democratic votes and about a third of Republican ballots. The survey was conducted for The Associated Press and the television networks.

Republicans were split roughly evenly in naming the nation's top issues: the economy, Iraq, illegal immigration and terrorism. Romney had a big lead among those naming immigration, while McCain led on the other issues.

Half of Republicans said illegal immigrants should be deported, and this group leaned toward Romney. Those saying illegal immigrants should be allowed to apply for citizenship leaned toward McCain, while the two candidates split those saying those here illegally should be allowed to stay as temporary workers.

Among Democrats, about one-third each named the economy and Iraq as the top issues facing the country, followed by health care. Voters naming the economy were split about evenly between Obama and Clinton, while Obama had an advantage among those naming the other two issues. Clinton has made health care a signature issue for years.

About one-third said if Bill Clinton were running, they would have voted for him on Tuesday.

It was hard to tell who needed a Republican victory more � McCain or Romney. McCain was the long-ago front-runner who survived a near-death political experience when his fundraising dried up and his support collapsed. He shed much of his staff and regrouped, and by the final days of the New Hampshire race, he held a celebration of sorts to mark his 100th town hall meeting in the state he won eight years ago.

"It has all the earmarks of a landslide with the Dixville Notch vote," an upbeat McCain quipped � he got four votes there to Romney's two and one for Giuliani � as his campaign bus headed to a polling place in Nashua. The crowd of supporters was so big, that voters complained and a poll worker pleaded with McCain to leave. Seconds later, the bus pulled away.

Obama drew huge crowds as he swept into New Hampshire after winning Iowa, and as the front-runner drew plenty of criticism from Clinton and her husband. Asked if he expected more, Obama said, "Oh, I don't think it will be just in the next few days. I think it'll be, you know, until I'm the nominee or until I quit." He said he understood their frustration.

Clinton, for her part, retooled her appeal to voters on the run. She lessened her emphasis on experience, and sought instead to raise questions about Obama's ability to bring about the change he promised.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:14 pm

Not sure what all those question marks around the article are about, but they're on the website too.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:04 pm

She took New Hampshire. Looks like we have a race on our hands.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:36 pm

no pun intended?
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:37 pm

It's exciting too, because you just want to know who will win.

The blacks or the women-folk.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:38 pm

well I guess either way the second-place will be the candidate for vice-pres, no?
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:41 pm

Does it work that way?

Quite honestly, last time around I don't even remember the primaries being discussed at all. It was just "who'll run with John Kerry? Who'll run with John Kerry? Who'll run with John Kerry? Three purple hearts, suckah! Who'll run with John Kerry?"

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:58 pm

too lazy to do research right now, but I think the general convention is the first and second place candidates in party primaries are the candidates for President and Vice-President, respectively.

that is based on convention, not law.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:54 am

This is based on whether the person wants to do it or not. The nominee chooses there own VP. Surely there is party angling, but it's ultimately up to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:52 am

Hey Whidden, Clinton won New Hampshire, next step: White House!


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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:39 am

Some people are speculating it was because of the whole crying incident that Hillary won. Women turned out to show their support. Put their shoes on and got out of the kitchen. Of course they were back in time to cook dinner and do the dishes.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:02 pm

gawd, that woman looks demented
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:06 pm

She really doesn't take the best pictures.

I think I am leaning more toward Clinton is I want Bubba back in the White House. Can't you imagine him walking around in his old presidential robe, hollering at interns, wielding all the power of the president without the responsibility.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:44 pm

I wanna know what 'first' he'll be too. "First Man"? "First Gentleman"? "Male First Lady"?

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:45 pm

First Gentleman.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:50 pm

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Hey Whidden, Clinton won New Hampshire, next step: White House!


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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:04 am

Dave
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton holds surprise lead in seesaw N.H. race   Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:32 am

hee hee

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